These are older posts on Saturn Pluto.
‘Stray thoughts on Saturn and Pluto which come together as a conjunction in 2019. But also dominate the US Presidential Election 2016 chart, with each planet sitting on the point of a T Square.
* Two tough, essentially masculine energies.
* Saturn’s great strength in stability and structure is also a weakness when faced with situations demanding flexibility and compromise. Pluto in a slightly different way is also incapable of giving way gracefully. A world view based solely on power sees only the victorious or the oppressed. There can be no quarter given when compromise is seen as a sign of weakness, a lowering of defences as potentially life-threatening.
* Freedom of choice is not a Saturn–Pluto concept, so beliefs that do not fall in line with the established order, come under pressure.’
‘The only Saturn Pluto Jupiter conjunction, as we have coming up in 2020, that I could find over the past 300 years was in 1819/20. In fact it never came together as all three since the Saturn Pluto conjunction in Pisces of 19189 had separated before Jupiter caught up in 1820. When I have a moment I’ll try to delve further back in history. But of note (from wiki):-
‘The Panic of 1819 was the first major peacetime financial crisis in the United States followed by a general collapse of the American economy persisting through 1821. The Panic announced the transition of the nation from its colonial commercial status with Europe toward a dynamic economy, increasingly characterized by the financial and industrial imperatives of laissez-faire capitalism. Though driven by global market adjustments in the aftermath of the Napoleonic Wars, the severity of the downturn was compounded by excessive speculation in public lands, fueled by the unrestrained issue of paper money from banks and business concerns.’
Interesting that the financial collapse – Saturn Pluto = deprivation – was followed by a resurgence from Jupiter. It was certainly a major turning point at least for the USA.’
Also broader background on Saturn Pluto : December 17 2016
Hi Marjorie
Given your surmization above how would this play for a female with natal Descendant in Capricorn and Pluto in Cap 7th house.
Sounds intense.
Right now she is 2 and 9 months and very demanding.
Just a quick steer would be so helpful for helping her to learn to use that energy in a positive way.
Much love j
OMG Marjorie
I just realise my solar return chart this year will have Capricorn on Descendant with transiting Pluto in Cap in 7th house.
Need your steer even more than ever if possible please?
At that age astrology may not impinge much. It’s much more to do with what’s on the parents’ charts.
Thanks Marjorie. Even more interesting times ahead….do you see Neptune’s strong long term influence in its own sign as a factor in the ongoing Pluto and soon to be Saturn in Capricorn? Many of the darker Capricorn archetypes, criminal banksters, deep state actors, globalisation, military industrials, crooked politicians, neo cons, too big corporations, and so forth, as exemplified by Pluto in that sign, seem to be empowered and enabled by the very potent lies, spin, deception, propaganda, media manipulation, distrust, paranoia, hacking ( whether real or not) and much more, as embodied by Neptune in Pisces?