Brexit, Brino, NoExit – hitting the marathon wall

    

 

The inevitable Brexit stalemate appears to be reaching a crescendo. No one wants a hard Brexit or a Brino (Brexit in Name Only). But neither UK party can make up its mind what policy to follow as they flounder around contradicting themselves. The EU are, as expected and understandably, not only bored with the whole charade they’re sticking to their principles of no cherry-picking.

Two dates to look out for are: December 2nd to 11th this year when tr Saturn squares Theresa May’s Libra Sun and her Solar Arc Uranus, as she labours at the same time under the panicky-failure tr Neptune conjunct her Mars (through this month and next).

Her own and her Government chart look flummoxed at the moment with Uranus Neptune aspects.

The other is when the UK/EU relationship chart picks up the separating tr Saturn conjunct the composite Sun this December 20th to 28th. Which also affects both the UK and the EU Suns individually. The TM Government chart looks excessively stuck over New Year. And the EU/UK chart is very bad tempered through January.

There’s nothing that looks remotely like a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. TMay is all downhill from now onwards but even a new Tory leader wouldn’t fix the unfixable problem; and she’ll never get even her cobbled-together plan through Westminster.

Any alternative – revoking Article 50 to push back the March 29 2019 date or granting a People’s Vote would just stretch out the agony.

The UK chart is looking surprisingly chipper from mid January for a few weeks. The only thing that’s clear is dislike/disgust of politicians with Solar Arc Moon opposition the 11th house legislative Saturn.

For more detail see post October 18 2018.

18 thoughts on “Brexit, Brino, NoExit – hitting the marathon wall

  1. Thanks for this.
    One issue I have had with this year’s astrological events has been the static quality. By this Neptune and Pluto have been largely static this year. Mars has spent a good deal of time in Capricorn and early Aquarius. Saturn seems to have spent a long time in early Capricorn. From now on we move on from these positions and we will get a combination of Neptunian dissolution and Pluto destruction together with Saturn reality. It may be that we look back at 2018 as a moment of calm before the storm resumes.
    The mercury retrograde will by causing confusion allow everyone to look again at what they have done

    • First it has to go to UK Cabinet – wonder how many more resignations? – but more problematic it has to be debated and voted on in Parliament – and that’s where it could come badly unstuck.

        • I don’t see a problem with approval in The EU. The European Parliament Elections are coming in May, and pretty much everybody want this out of the table by then. Italian Government might be an exception, but my guess is they won’t want a Hard Brexit steering into chaos, because that would scare Italians. And yes, Brexit would most definitely be televized, given Silvio Berlusconi’s still own all those channels and he has emerged as a pro-European Brexit critic over the past months.

      • Obviously, and looking at the chart of the “tecnical” deal, I don’t have high hopes it’ll pass in The Parliament (Cabinet is aligned by now). There’s that Mercury square Neptune mentioned in Florida thread, and possibly even Moon void of course (there is a very short window for this in the afternoon, but it’s possible).

    • We’re approaching a Mercury retrograde this weekend which will then be ongoing until the end of the first week of December. I’m not confident about this deal at all.

      • True, but Venus is also about to station direct in Libra, conjunct Spica/Arcturus and still in opposition to Uranus. That is quite powerful symbol for any negotiations or agreements right now. I have been looking at this for a while as I would have said it seems a positive influence if something were to happen around now; definitely a break away but on good terms. However, it hasn’t seemed likely recently! Mercury retrograde would make sense in relation to all the travel and neighbour issues that need to be rethought.

        My reading of it is more positive than I believe myself, which is always an odd position to be in.

  2. I don’t have any particular insight on what happens next but Gordon Brown said yesterday that he thought there would be another referendum in between 6 months and 2 years time. A second referendum in 2020 would fit with some of the previous things you’ve written about an upswing in confidence for people like Starmer, Blair and pro-EU Labour types.

    Hard to see a clear path to that happening though and I didn’t catch Brown’s reasoning.

  3. Jacob Rees Mogg please no that would be awful. Nobody could have foreseen the debacle that the referendum became with the bullying and lies. The government expected Remain to win.

  4. Marjorie that is absolutely the feeling among most of the UK population.

    Politicians are paid to govern in good times and bad. The reason the UK is in its current situation is because David Cameron’s government chose to call a Referendum which the UK Parliament then voted into law. It was the politicians decision not the publics to call the poll. In fact people such as Jo Johnson were among those who voted to implement it as his name is listed amongst the Ayes on both the Second and Third Reading These same politicians also voted the EU Withdrawal Bill 2018 into law this June. Surely, if they thought the potential consequences of the Referendum was going to be so disastrous then they should not have called it in the first place. It ill behoves them to all start distancing themselves from the event just 4 months before the leaving date set out in that Bill expires. It smacks of moral cowardice and a total abdication of responsibility.

    I suppose the one salutory lesson to take away from the whole Brexit debacle is how it has revealed the weaknesses both of the Westminster based political system and the UK Civil Service. I cannot have been alone in noticing that the Congress of the continental United States manages to function with just 435 Members of the House of Representatives and 100 Senators. By contrast the UK Parliament has over 650 MPs sitting in the House of Commons and an absolutely ludicrous 791 unelected individuals sitting in the House of Lords. Regardless of whether the UK remains in the EU or exits it the Westminster Party system and the London based apparatus of government is in need of a radical overhaul as it is clearly no longer fit for purpose.

    • “I cannot have been alone in noticing that the Congress of the continental United States manages to function with just 435 Members of the House of Representatives and 100 Senators.”

      Well, this is debateable. There has been discussion on raising number of Representatives, as well as either raising the total number of Senators or relocating the current seats to deal with the fact that Wyoming has the same representation as California in the Senate, despite California having 50 times the population. Some argue states need Senators to represent their interest in Washington, but this doesn’t happen. They are voting party line, as demostrated by Republican Senators voting for Trump Tariffs hurting their State Economy.

      I do agree though that unlike in The UK , US upper house has a clear and functioning constitutional role.

  5. JoJo resigning last week must have signaled some sort of a tipping point. My reasoning behind this? He was Minister of Transportation. He knows how horribly messed up Brexit will be without Customs Union, because he was in charge of Ministry drawing plans on turning A2 to a giant parking lot in case of Hard Brexit. And apparently, there were other Cabinet Members who discovered Britain is an island last week.

  6. Hi Marjorie
    Could the chipper in January thing be an election, something that shakes things up and gives a sense of energy and focus? Is there any scope for such a thing? If her Chequers deal, or a variant, fails in the HoC, she may well have no option but to go to the country..

    • Oh I don’t think another election would do anything other than depress people. More hustings screamings and lies and not any viable politicians to vote for of any persuasion. Or am I just jaundiced?

  7. Theresa – I know you’ve had a look at his chart in the past – but I was wondering if it might be an idea to have a closer look at Jacob Rees Moog’s chart in relation to all this. I’ve been hearing some interesting news about this man from some insider acquaintances of mine… Could he be the man to watch?

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